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It Makes What It Makes: The Podcast
Podlet 014 - Does Size Really Matter?
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In this wee episode, Marian and Lisa attempt to answer the age-old question, does size matter?
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Welcome to It Makes What It Makes, the Podlet. So where we do what we want.
SPEAKER_01And we're here. I forgot how to talk. That's all right. Uh that's Lisa. That's Marion. We're here. We're here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And always it often feels on a Monday that we're just like, okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I feel like it gets a little like it's a sometimes we have a slow start. How about that? It's like.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I don't really have any excuse.
SPEAKER_01I'm just get a little discombobulated and then okay. All right, here we are. Back at it.
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah. It keeps happening. The Mondays, they keep happening. That's right.
SPEAKER_01What uh so what okay, I'm not gonna let you, I'm not gonna let you not do it. I need a I need an update. TLP corner update.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's not a lot different than I I did uh up my dose a little bit, which helped. So I did go. I have I I did also, like I said, I was waiting a couple of times in the afternoon, which is the worst idea ever. I was like, oh no, no, I'm gonna wait until tomorrow, you know, whatever morning it was, and yeah, I was fine. So I'm back on track. I mean, I don't I'm not losing like I did. It's never like the beginning, which is fine. No, it's totally fine with me. Yeah, but uh I kind of was struggling mentally. I was like, what is it? Like the like it's hard to know because at first it's like amazing, yeah, right? And I think there's some of the high of just figuring out what it does for you, but then um my food noise will come back. So I've been doing the midweek, you know, I do a few days, a half a week or whatever. And so I'm just I I just I was like, I probably just haven't had enough. So like I did a little bump, a little bump, and then a couple of days later was my regular shot, and I just I've just upped my dose because I'm like, I I think you gotta go until a I don't know. I I need to probably do a little more research on that. And I'm not what I'm not crazy, but I'm not I'm on like what people would be doing as like their third dose, yeah, if they were on the pens or whatever. Yeah, but I am, I guess, more than two months in now, or today is two months, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, yeah. You it certainly by now should be up in your dose, and I think it the the schedule is 2.5, then five, then seven. Like seven and a half, yeah. So you know, do you you're not like going nothing?
SPEAKER_02So basically I'll be at like 80 for a week, like, which is fine with me. I want to see how long I can do that. Yeah, but yeah, yeah. Um, plus I'll start running out, so I gotta so I gotta resupply. I know I'm yeah, I I don't think I missed the sale, but I may depends. You know, I gotta get paid. It's it's a lot like the compounding pharmacy is so much more affordable, but also it's still not cheap. Like, I still have to like no it's a little chunk at once.
SPEAKER_01It's not um now, yeah. The best deal, like it is a chunk, but the good thing is those same places that I shared with you. You can if you don't have the money to buy the larger amount, you can buy that's true, you know.
SPEAKER_02I like the math so much though. The math is so much easier to play this. So um, and it's not bad, but also um I I'm not even in like a shortage, I just know in my mind I'll do I have a scarcity thing, yes, but I mostly see it in like my um like deodorant and products like that. I'll find I probably have within almost arms reaching me right now, I probably have six sticks of deodorant because I'm like, I don't want to stink, right? Or like I'm worried about running out, it's so dumb. And then toothpaste, I'll randomly find toothpaste I forgot I bought in some bag or whatever from travel because I'm yeah. So I'm do I'm fine, but yeah, yeah, I just know it'll start going quicker.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, and I buy it for Mauritius, so I am always watching for those sales. Like anytime I get a sale and the free shipping, I'm like, yes, like you know, and then that also because then I can bundle like all the peptides that I want to do, and I get it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, they should do they should put you on like a rewards. I I do, I do have a rewards. Okay, good. Uh that's great, but yeah, I mean it's just it's just moving along. I of course, like I go through the thing of like I'm ready for it to be done yesterday, but I know that's just yeah, human nature. I do love going to a restaurant and like like I'll do sandwiches or burgers just because it's easy and like it's half. You can just see how it's amazing, yeah. And I'm fine. I'm sure I've mentioned that too, but it's wild to have it in the messed up brain. Like to have like I can look, I can have it still sitting there and it's fine. Like it's not, I don't, I won't keep picking at it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. No, and that's like you, and I you've talked about this a lot to somebody who doesn't understand that. It's like, oh, okay, but no, that's a big deal.
SPEAKER_02Like literally, like having it in front of you, it's kind of like don't like it. It always helps when I don't buy snacks for the pantry because then you don't you just don't have them, right? Um, but yeah, I probably should be cooking for myself more. That that's a thing I could do better, but I'm getting in the proteins, I'm doing it, doing the thing, staying hydrated.
SPEAKER_01Yep, that's a biggie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's the big one.
SPEAKER_01It really is.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, not much to report, but yeah, a little more than 20 pounds down, like I'm solidly 20 pounds down. It's probably a little below that, but I like to hit the mark where I know it's staying there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, that's no, that's not a small feat. Like, that's not like you know, when it when someone's like, Oh, I'm down like five, seven pounds, like to me, that's still a lot, but 20 pounds, that's a solid loss.
SPEAKER_02Well, on a on a normal person, I think it is. So I think percentage of what I need to lose, it's not, I guess it's like let's say hypothetically, which is not far off that I'm wanting to do 100 pounds. I guess that's 20%. So it's not too bad. Probably quicker than some people would like, but it's I don't care what they think about that necessarily.
SPEAKER_01So right.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm I'm excited. I'm glad.
unknownThank you.
SPEAKER_02I booked my colonoscopy for uh September time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_0245 years old. I'll be 45 in September. And I did and I didn't tell them. Like they asked about medications, and I just I was like, oh, it's fine. I mean, they didn't ask about that specifically, so I didn't tell them. No, it's not on my chart. No, whatever. I don't think it's gonna hurt anything because I'll because it'll just be a bad day anyway, the like yes, the prep day.
SPEAKER_01So yep, yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But it's supposed to be only once every 10 years if you don't really have issues, so I was like, I might as well do because you can do alternatives, but I'm like, I just don't have any reason to do that.
SPEAKER_01So I was supposed to do the alternative, and I guess they forgot.
SPEAKER_02My bot my doctor's office forgot, but the hardest thing for me is getting a ride on a like on a work day. I don't like and I don't like asking people for rides, like I like to take care of my own. I know it's it's both a matter of pride and logistics.
SPEAKER_01So okay, but I mean like you have a kid, you can just be like, Oh Grisha, I need you to take me to the she gets the brunt, she gets all of those, all of those requests. The only child life. Yep, yep, she does. She's like, oh, okay, mom.
SPEAKER_02That's how she gets the big inheritance.
SPEAKER_01That's right. The big inheritance.
SPEAKER_02Oh generational wealth, yeah. Uh yeah. Anyway, do you have a G spot?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I wrote it down. I actually did. So I and I don't know if it's a it's not necessarily like it's it was off a TikTok that I saw, and I actually stopped and I wrote it down. And I was like, this because it's like it just hit me, like it struck a chord, and I was like, Yep, these are the double standards. And so it says, so basically, like when someone's like, God, you're such a girl, or you know, don't be such a girl. It's like that's like a reprimand. But like this to you, like, or just like, oh, you're you know, be just being a boy, that's a boy for you. That's an excuse.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, I hate that.
SPEAKER_01You see what I'm saying? Like, you're being such a girl, like, uh, I'm I am a girl.
SPEAKER_02Right, but it's like one of the biggest insults. Like, if you think of a sports coach in the 80s and 90s, like the worst thing he could say to the boys was that they they're being playing like girls, or you you throw like a girl.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yep. Um, my my high school swim coach would be like, he'd always yell out at the whole team, like, my grandma can swim better than or faster than you, or you know, stuff like that. I'm like, at least it was like, okay, we're being compared to a geriatric person, I guess. I don't know. Right, but maybe his grandma was a badass.
SPEAKER_02Um could be. We don't know.
SPEAKER_01We don't know. And then the other one's like, well, she she was drunk and makes her irresponsible. He was drunk, makes it understandable.
SPEAKER_03And I'm like, Oh yeah, and you know what?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that is in it, and it that that this one hit me because it's like, you know what? That's so true. Because there has there have been times where I'm like with somebody or in a group or something, I'm like, okay, this person is this guy is really bothering me. The shit he's saying to me, like he somebody needs to keep him over there away from me. And guess what? They'll say, He's just it's you know, he's just really drunk. Yeah, well, get him the fuck away from me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like that's not what no, right. Um, and then the last two, she puts her career first. It's a flaw, and or she's selfish, or he puts his career first, well, then he's ambitious.
SPEAKER_02I hear that less, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But the drunk one really, I was like, yeah, like, oh, she's getting drunk, you know. And I've and I and you know, and I've had it, I've been there, like I've heard it been said by like people like about a friend of, you know, a friend's. They're like, oh she's she's all drunk, and like as if she's that this woman is irresponsible. But in the same breath, a dude can be drunk, and it's like, oh, that makes it under, you know, he was just really drunk. It's like why, why, you know, I don't know. It makes me mad.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, fair.
SPEAKER_01Like guys just get a they they just get a pass. And you can't when women can't be all the like, oh, just lighten up, be fun. Okay, oh well now you're irresponsible. Now you're you know, right. It's you can't win. Can't win. You know. I've been for some reason my my um for you page has been like serving me up a lot of like weird snippets about people having like debates about body count. And I'm like, I'm like, what uh and it's just like why TikTok? But it's like, but the point, I mean, they are interesting because it's like I think there's like a new season of Married at First Sight or something, and there's a couple, and the guy's like, So what's your body count? Or the woman asks, what's your body count? And he's like, I don't know, I think like 20 or so. And she's like, Oh, okay. He's like, What's yours? She's like, Yeah, probably about the same. And he just was like, he just has like this look of disgust.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01And I was reading the comments, I was like, these are excellent points. So one comment, I was like, damn, zing. So it's like, okay, a guy with a body count of like 20, right? It's harder for guys to find someone to sleep with. So do the math. He that means he had to try what, at least a hundred times to sleep with somebody.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's a lot of zine.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, but think about it. Like he had to try, like, how many attempts were were he rejected, but he got 20, right? And they're also like the next follow-up question is how many of these women did you sleep with more than once?
SPEAKER_02But then it then it's a different, like they don't they only count once, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, but hold on, because he wants to be he wants he's trying to shame her, like, oh, or these one night stands. I mean, there's no that's impossible for these to be relationships. Like, but he doesn't, he's not saying that about himself.
SPEAKER_02Well, the fact that he's not, I mean, that the double standards there in the first place.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, and then like and then and then someone's like, but if you turn if you turn this upside down on his head, a woman, she doesn't have to, there's not a hundred attempts for her like trying, she had to say no, probably a hundred times and ended up sleeping with only 20 men. Like, let's be serious. Like, I'm like, Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I just it's been coming across my FYP a lot.
SPEAKER_02And I'm like, ugh, and it's just I have not seen this at all.
SPEAKER_01It's been all over it, and it's like guys, like, oh, I you know, develop they would prefer to like be with a virgin, and they say it, they say it, and they're like, that's because you know, that way basically she's malleable and like she doesn't have like basically they don't want to be compared.
SPEAKER_02Right. I can yeah, it's usually an excuse to be shitty. Yeah, they don't know similar to how I feel about older guys that want to date younger women, like yeah, you want them to have less experience so they don't know to say no to your shenanigans.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they don't they don't know that you're just a shitty yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, she's so mature, so mature for her age. Oh my god. Speaking of things that I hate to hear people say, I'm like same. I'm sure she is, but also it makes you sound like a weirdo.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. I'm not, yeah, I'm never ugly, yeah. Younger, okay, and yeah, it's just a weird, it is weird. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02And when I say younger, I mean significantly.
SPEAKER_01Significantly, right?
SPEAKER_02Where the more people than not would say that's kind of weird or gross. Yeah. Which I say that as though I didn't enjoy age of attraction. But they also didn't act like that. Like, I don't know, they did in some ways. I think the one guy that you really hit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But then the the older woman, younger guy, I I actually liked them together despite the big age gap.
SPEAKER_01Why did I why I'm with you on that? And I'm trying to figure out why, for some reason, it seemed more genuine and plausible. Why?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Maybe it's just the cultural thing of like a woman is less likely to be a predator like that. I mean, I know it happens, but and I felt like but I felt like that one woman who was like 49 was super immature. Like she was so insecure about her death.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was that one was weird. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I was like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it can go it could go, it can go all the ways.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You know, Chris Hansen is like back at it and like to catch a predator and stuff. I this just came across my TikTok right before I came here. It was like in a matter of like hours, they had 51 men like show up to have to thinking they're gonna have sex with someone.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they did like they they did like a big yeah sting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I've only seen it where it's like one person, like they're focused on like one guy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're like they they were like, I think they were got online for like uh six hours and 51, 51 men. I'm like, what fish in a barrel showed up, showed up, like didn't just talk, like they were like, boom, I'm here. It's like, oh my god, just sick.
SPEAKER_02It's interesting because I've been listening to uh Amy Duggar's book. So Amy's the cousin of the Duggars, and she's in the she's in both, I think, of the Shiny Happy People documentaries, but a little bit more in the second one, which is funny because the first one focused on her family more. But like since then, a second of the Duggar sons has gotten into trouble. And I kind of want to figure out because because I think because of that, I've been getting like more Facebook reels, but it they must know I'm reading that book or whatever, because then I'll get Duggar related. Yeah, but I don't know which person is which.
SPEAKER_01Like Josh is easy because he's the oldest, like he knows he is, but like the rest of them, I'm like, I don't I don't know which me either.
SPEAKER_02And if this is the wife of him or if this is a wife of a different one, I don't really know. I'm very confused, but she talks about it in the book, and it it's probably a better book to read to yourself. I will say it's one of those that she reads her own, and not everybody needs to do that, right? Um, I mean I'm interested because of the story and her perspective because she was so she was an only child, but then her cousin, and then her mom's only sibling is Jumbob Duggar, and so that's that's who she grew up around. She had like her mom and her parents' issues, and then and then the Duggar Chaos, or yeah, yeah. And she and Josh are the really close in age, so they grew up uh close, right? And I don't know, I got a little irritated with how she was talking about it because just like most people, how they've talked about it, it's all about him and his parents' response to him, which I don't think they did him any favors either. Oh, yeah, the way they excuse it and stuff, oh, or just what bothers me is so few people talk about a that they were young women, but not even women, they were girls.
SPEAKER_01I think the youngest was four, and then these are children, yes.
SPEAKER_02But they talk about the whole scandal, but nobody's going and what the parents didn't do for the sisters, like they were the they got the worst end of all that. Like, yeah, I think the system failed Josh that he was in because he was a teenager when he got caught. There could have been so many other ways of dealing with it, but like they didn't ever really kick him out of the house, from what I understand. He like lived in a and when he got in trouble like the second time after he was married, he just lived in a or when it came out, I guess. Yeah, he just lived in a trailer on his parents' property with his wife there, who I don't understand her either. I mean, I think in a way she's a victim too, but also I don't know. I don't know how you stay with uh at that at a point, especially having children, having small children of her own. Anyway, yeah, because it was in the family, it wasn't just it's not just he's a child, it's his family. You're like a special kind of really gross, anyway. So I oh, and she also says especially, which probably bothered me the most. I mean, I'm I'm interested in her perspective, I am, but god, it's distracting. But yeah. No, that's I I would recommend reading her book with just your eyes and not your ears.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um but yeah. I forget why I Oh, you're talking about Chris Saints and your album.
SPEAKER_01Chris Saintson, yeah. Coming up. Yeah, it's just disgust it's just God, it's just mmm. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't w men wanting to have ch sex with children, I don't I I can't wrap my head around it.
SPEAKER_02I mean I d I I
SPEAKER_01believe there are women also but it it's usually not more often than not it's it's I mean it's I'm not yeah it's not I'm not gonna say it doesn't happen I'm just saying the overwhelming the it it is the majority it is men doing it yes yeah yeah I don't know if somebody has some insight on that I would love to hear it because it's just heartbreaking and it's really really unnerving because you know I've used to watch that show a lot and it's always and they're like you know Chris will always be like so what do you do for and it's like you know could I'm like a PE coach and you know I have kids and you know it's just like I'm married and it's just like what are you doing?
SPEAKER_02What it's just I don't know I don't either I don't get it I don't get it like I think there is some generational trauma stuff that happens where it's happened to them and so that just messes them up but like it's not an excuse to victimize someone else I will never accept that no and it and to be like and you know the old timey to catch a predator it's like it would be like um you know they had the actor the actress be there and and pretend to be you know a 13 year old or something at her parents' house yeah and so the guy has the audacity to roll on up to like where this child lives and it's like okay and they come they always come in and like make themselves at home like have a seat you know and it's just like can you I haven't seen that many of these things.
SPEAKER_01Oh it's it's horrifying it's just it's mind boggling they like where what do you in in her in the house that like her parents like are wherever I don't know like you know she's like I'm home alone and they're just saying they just think I'm sure they think they can handle it. So strange but sometimes they don't tell sometimes they pretend like they're younger I guess but sometimes they don't what oh the guys guys yeah oh no most of them don't most of the the predator yeah the guys that are like sexting online with the they don't pretend like they're younger no wow yeah in fact it's like a lot of the lead in that Chris will like here let me read it back to you like they're like they'll they always are like oh I didn't know she was you know and they're like um right here you ask her how old she is and she says I'm 13 yeah and they're like well it's just oh my god yeah I don't like I don't know I don't know I don't it's so depraved I I try I don't it it's mind bottom it makes me it's it it seems to be like such a there's so many dudes being caught in that situation that it's like is that just like just part of that like oh also is that something I need to ask people like if as a single woman like by the way you know are you a child predator?
SPEAKER_02Like yeah I don't know I I think I'm hoping it's because it's been like in your face I that's me too like how prevalent I it's more prevalent than it should be but I do think there's an element of it's like worse among people with power because it's like another version of exerting your power I think so so I want to say like among the elites or whatever that you feel like it's worse than the average population but I mean that's not what you're seeing on that show.
SPEAKER_01No, these are normal regular folk. Yeah but I don't know maybe it's internet access to things like maybe yeah but I don't know all right wow oh yeah I maybe should have asked you what your do spot was before I so today's question is a big is one of the questions the big questions of okay does size matter oh yeah um it's yes yes and yes and no okay I mean it it it can yes I've been with some people that it was like uh oh yeah when it's when it's too small that's like there yeah yeah too small in fact do you remember the documentary about the guy with the micro penis did I watch this I don't know I think I've told you about it a bazillion times probably I mean I've encountered plenty of these guys yeah same and but this guy in particular made a documentary because it started with he did like a proposal at a basketball game with his girlfriend and she was it was one of those proposals where she like walked out like it was like a halftime type proposal like thing and this is very familiar now that you're saying it but it's been a while it was all over the internet back in the day and like she was like no and then but he was like he had to know why and she just was like okay okay and it was because he has a micro penis and so he does this whole self-exploration like documentary it's very very interesting uh about size and you know he goes to doctors and things and he has this it's oh I think I did watch this yes it's it's an older documentary so yeah it's been out for a while but it is quite fascinating because and yeah but yeah it if it's when it's micro penis size it can it can definitely matter what do you think I mean yeah yeah I mean yeah but I I do think there's a there's a range there's a range it's a big range and it depends a little bit on your physicality too right like what yeah well and that's something that's fascinating too and I feel like I just learned this in the last couple years that women's vaginas are different sizes yeah so I'm like oh my god that makes so much sense so yeah we're not all equipped the same down here either so right right and it also kind of depends on what works for you and what he's willing to do.
SPEAKER_02That's true. And vice versa right like there are things we if you if you really love somebody I think I don't know I mean I don't fault this woman but it depends I also cannot imagine I used to talk about this with my therapist because I grew up in such a conservative environment like I cannot imagine waiting until I get married and then being unpleasantly surprised I've and then you're like in it you're like in that in that world you're like I I chose that I'm stuck I'm stuck with this I can't remember if we read this or that I just read it on my own but there was a Reddit post like that where the woman she was like they she like the guy's great and he just really wanted to wait till like marriage or an surprise I mean like I'd want at some kind of preview I and and I know that probably makes me a terrible I don't know in my in my background or whatever would make me not a great person but like I yeah I don't want to be surprised I don't want that to be a surprise a bad surprise a bad surprise yeah agree and either way either way because I I suppose there's the outlying option that they could be too big they could be too big I don't think that's as common but yeah I know so one of the frustrating things I think is I mean what are the what are some of the what are some of the ways people have claimed you can tell like it get a prediction I mean we've all heard like feet and hands yeah which that is not accurate I have not found that to be true no um um people talk about wrist size I don't I don't I'm not I'm not I can't I don't I'm not an expert on that I can't claim whether that's true or false. I'm yeah I've never seen a correlation in either way yeah um you know you you try to make out and you try to maybe do a hand check but that's also misleading oh yeah if they're wearing like jeans with a thick zipper you have no idea still yeah or they have big balls oh yeah and you can't tell so yeah so that's my deal with catch catching print that guy that was you know like all over the place for a while the catching print which uh he may be right in a way but yeah what if they just have big balls yeah and as men get older they kind of I mean there's a whole thing with it like either they or they like with low testosterone or prostate problems or I mean any number of things that could be deceiving with that.
SPEAKER_01So yeah catching print though that was pretty educational for me because I'm like I think this is my my corporate is showing like my being in the business like working in professional settings I've trained myself not to pay attention to that area on men's bodies like I just don't well I try not to as a per you know just like you want to respect be respectful to people right you're not like trying to check out hmm I can't say I'm not curious but also like yeah you gotta like yeah you're like you're saying you're not you gotta live you gotta do your life yeah yeah but I did I mean there are times where I'm like you know like I just recently the airport I was like I'm nothing better I'm gonna watch people I'm like oh I can catch print yeah the airport's a really great place to people watch that's like my favorite so I was like okay maybe I'll try then I felt like such a perv I don't know I mean maybe I it's an excuse but I think about like I had a brother that was close in age and I hung out with guys like I knew how they look at women especially when they're younger like that's constant that's what they're they're they're assessing in their minds all the time women's bodies so I don't know it's not equal so it's not you think it was I mean I'm not like maybe it's maybe an excuse I mean I wasn't like nudging my like work colleague like hey I was just keeping it to myself like I wonder well yeah no that's the other great part about the airport is you can just be in your own world you don't have to talk about it yeah but I was like oh this is a good place to practice that there you go I was practicing how did you feel like it went uh I'm not good at it I well I don't the thing is how do you know how does how do you know that he's right right I don't know my accurate I didn't go I didn't look and then go okay sir I've been I've had a bed placed with myself how do you test this no any of them yeah we're at such a disadvantage women you like you can see boob sites like you just can't like there's not any example you could put on more clothes and I know about you know people strapping them down or whatever but like in general everybody knows the size of your boobs yeah so again I feel like it's never gonna be equal I 100% think about that a lot I'm like because I'm I'm like again in a professional setting I will sometimes wear shirts that are just like it's a t-shirt and I'll wear some slacks you know and the shirt t-shirts come up to here but it's still like my silhouette is still one of the yeah like there's no getting away from it they're there for everybody to kind of go oh Lisa's boobs I mean I'm gonna be curvy no matter what I am wearing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah so yeah so it's it's uh I don't feel as bad. Also if you're not saying it to them hey I'm checking out your junk yeah whatever no I don't I don't know that I'd want to be an object continually or anything but I kind of don't care. Like if someone at the airport has looked at me and raided my boobs I don't know the difference you don't know I don't feel victimized in the least about that. No you just enjoy your whatever you gotta do to get through air travel. That's right but uh I I bring this up because I'm sure it was fed to me on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02But there has been a study uh where they did correlate uh another part of the male anatomy to penis okay and it is do you want to guess uh is it the nose it's the nose yeah I I it got me wondering like maybe this is why Adrian Brody has a career that he does I don't know do you know who Adrian Brody is no uh who is he how would I know he's not a very attractive guy but the other thing I've heard which I didn't bring up in the in the hands and feet thing is I've heard tall skinny guys which may or may not be true I don't have enough this one time that's for damn sure yeah was not true but yeah so there was actually a a study they called it big nose big hose oh my god that's pretty funny but yeah evidently in 2021 let's see they did they compared uh to see if there's a correlation oh this is funny the author now this is from sciencefeature.com everybody's favorite someone named Thomas Brown uh he said now before we delve further here's a gentle reminder that size doesn't matter in terms of male anatomy comparisons or worries about size are usually unwarranted so even as we look at this interesting piece of research remember every individual is unique and that's something to celebrate not worry about which okay which is a fair yes but also to be fair what do people say about it in relationships like if the sex is good it's like 20 but if it's bad it's like 80 yeah so it it matters in your like how whatever affects that is gonna affect your relationship so whatever you know romantic relationships but um so yeah in the spirit of thorough research a group of scientists uh okay 126 male bodies post mortem okay i didn't catch that part before so there's so this is what happens when you like donate your body to science go on yeah so this is flaccid penis size okay okay they so they couldn't ex get they had to approximate an erection as stretched penile length where the penis is manually stretched so um it evidently gives and even though it's weird a pretty accurate x estimate okay and the guy with on the or some doctor I saw which I think I sent you the the TikTok like he said roughly it's like half the size the flaccid penis is roughly half the size okay but that's probably an average also like um because we've heard of growers and showers um said okay they found the whore the highest correlation between flaccid penile length and stretched penile length no surprises there uh but the most significant was between nose size and stretched penile length interesting so yeah so essentially they suggest I mean this is 126 dead body right uh that the larger the nose the larger the erect penis okay I'm trying to think back like I don't think I've ever dated somebody with big nose oh uh in a twist you'll find this interesting also uh they only found a weak correlation between nose size and testicle weight so again the balls will mess up the whole thing that's right of figuring it out yeah yeah so yeah I just thought that was kind of I mean like you know not a thing that you but I did I also decided to pull up some uh some data because there evidently was a recent like worldwide sort of they're always comparing right who's um so the top okay the top 20 I'm not gonna name all of them but let's see here the US was not in the top 20 or the bottom 20 of penis size yeah okay it's uh at the bottom was a lot of Samoa which is interesting but it's a lot of Asian Middle Eastern North Korea they said might be bad information or whatever Vietnam but they're also smaller people overall if you're just thinking about like or Philippines or whatever um the top one do you want to guess oh I have no idea uh this one surprised me Ecuador what it's the average erect penis length by kind it's top one Ecuador and this is average okay 6.96 inches okay okay I don't know what that is in metric people we're American so if you're listening you'll have to do the conversion what is um so what's the the the United States average you know what let me I might have to like pull that up so that's actually oh okay I thought you were looking at a chart I am but it didn't fall in the top 20 or the bottom 20 okay that's okay let's see if duck duck go uh protects my search uh terms okay it does not want to tell me okay USA average uh lengthened girth explained four point six inches okay oh no sorry that's the girth oh the average length is five point one to five point three yeah that's what I that's what I would have guessed yeah yeah my uh my large screen just turned off oh I know my camera went out too so I don't know what's happening everything your computer's like you cannot your yes your computer's like what are you looking at I I did it did it's I don't know it switched cameras no it didn't because I'm not even there you're not even there that's fine but yeah so yeah so the men the I figured the US fell somewhere in the middle yeah yeah okay a lot of myth okay common myths shoe size height race yes this says 85 of women are satisfied with their partner's penis size I believe that's self-reported well okay but if you're gonna stay in a relationship you're probably gonna be mostly satisfied with that right you know like like you said it's it's if it's good it's like 20 if it's bad it's like 80 like yeah calling it uh 55 of men are satisfied with their own size oh which so for those guys 85 of the women are happy yeah so uh you're doing something right that's right which i really do i mean it It it matters to an extent, but also matters how you treat your partner. I mean, like Right. Because if you if you focus on her satisfaction, it really becomes less and less of a factor.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you can be a well-endowed guy and still be bad at sex.
SPEAKER_02Oh, a lot. My understanding, my sm you know, small bit of it makes them lazy. If they're big, that somehow they think they don't have to do anything else.
SPEAKER_00Oh, right.
SPEAKER_02Like really attractive people that don't have a personality.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Because they've never had to. They didn't have to work, they didn't have to cultivate that skill.
SPEAKER_02Right. So like if you're if you're the guy that's famous on campus for having a big dick, maybe you don't, you know what I mean? Like maybe they've never had to be tested on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, so the they it gives categories here. So I'm glad you asked about US. This is everybody's favorite medipill.com.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Uh micropenis is under 2.75 inches, which tracks. Yeah. Small three and a half to four and a half. But it says that's only okay. Micropenis, it says is only 0.6% of the population. So I I really have seen way more than the average would suggest.
SPEAKER_01That same um, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Small is seven percent below average, 4.5 to 5.2, 23. Which I think at that point you're getting in a reasonable range, though. It's the because again, yeah, it depends on the women, your body, and what they're willing to do. Yes, average five and five point two to six inches, yeah. Yeah, above that, six to six and a five. Large, they're calling six and a half to seven and a half, very large over seven and a half, which all tracks, but then they have the growth underfoot. I think that's a would be a bigger issue, which I haven't like a little, a little a slim one, yeah. That sounds awful.
SPEAKER_01That doesn't sound great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have I don't have really uh an opinion, but it sounds terrible. Yeah, but it does say research consistently shows that girth matters more than length for sexual satisfaction and long-term relationships. Yeah, I mean it tracks.
SPEAKER_01And the reason, and the reason is is like now that they figured out what the clitoris actually looks like, that makes so much more sense. That the clitoris isn't just like this external organ, it's like that's the external part, is like actually the smallest part, and it wraps around like the interior of your vagina, and it's right in the Well that's not even accounting for it, which I think the G-spot is its own thing. But the clitoris wraps around and it's in the it's like in the it doesn't go deep inside the vagina, it's like a more in the entrance part of the vagina. So yeah, that's more like so. That makes sense about the girth.
SPEAKER_02So this is funny. I'm sure male doctors came up with the measuring. Um because they stay that they say that from the pubic bone to the tip. Oh, because okay, so just logistically, you're losing at least an inch for balls. Like, there's not that's not you're not losing it, but it's not like if they're in the way, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because balls all hang differently, too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's a whole thing. I don't understand that at all. Because I do there seems to be a genetic correlation for women's boobs a little bit. What do you mean? Like, I think I'm kinda my joke is that it's like, so what I heard one time, so who knows if it's true at all scientifically, but that that men get their border balding patterns from their mother's father. I'm convinced that women get their boob genetics from their father's mother.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that tracks for me.
SPEAKER_02See? Yep, it does for me. I don't know. That's just my anecdotal. Yeah. But I but I don't know if it uh, you know, like uh one of the things about circumcision when people have which I I don't feel like I haven't had a son and I'm not a dude, so opinions on circumcision are iffy on my part, but I do I can see the argument against it, especially because you arrive a certain way and your body's supposed to work a certain way.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I think circumcision is weird as shit.
SPEAKER_02It is, but we're so used to seeing them like that. I know so I it is, but it's also the US is just one of the higher percentage countries for circumcision. So in in Europe, it's kind of like half and half, yeah. But I yeah, I don't remember what article I was reading on that, but um oh, because one of the arguments is oh, we want it to look like they're dads, but I'm like, okay, but first of all, there's no guarantee circumcised or not, that it's gonna look like dads, right? Second of all, if you're a little boy, you have a little boy penis, you're not gonna have a man penis, right? So I don't I think that's a weird. I mean, maybe I don't know. So I haven't lived that thing of like, oh, I need to compare to care.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I don't I don't know that that part of boyhood or manhood that like how are they walking around showing comparing all the time or well no, but I'm sure like dads take their kids to the bath, you know, okay.
SPEAKER_02Whatever. It's not like you're in a family that it's so outrageous that's a dad you know what I mean. Like a little person, it's not necessarily an indicator of anything, right? I mean I hope parents take their kids to public restrooms uh you know, for the most part, because anyway, so especially in men's rooms, because they're always like troughs and urinals, like there's not even privacy, like I don't know. Oh funny. So so here are factors ranked higher than size. Okay, which I thought was I'm looking at you can't even tell. I can't. Number the first one, emotional connection. Okay, yes, which ranked a 9.2 out of 10. So there you go. Technique and rhythm, 8.7 out of 10, communication, 8.5 out of 10. So those first three, zero to do with size. 100. Yes, I agree with this, but then it says girth at 7.8, and then length, which like I'm both of those are sizes. So anyway, yeah. Yeah, I thought the nose thing was really interesting. Hmm.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know. I I I don't have that. I don't think I can't even speak from experience. I don't think I've ever like actually dated somebody with a big nose.
SPEAKER_02Or yeah, I don't yeah, I'm not noticeable to me. Yeah, right. Um penis size changes with age. This is interesting. So 18 to 30, stable. Okay, 30 to 50, minimal, minimal change, 50 to 70 slight decrease possible. Oh, so that's good news for us. Yeah. Um, and then 70 plus up to half and half to one centimeter loss. So that's like tiny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's not much.
SPEAKER_02Most changes relate to blood flow, not tissue loss, which makes sense. Yeah, as an older person. So uh so there you go. It's if you if you're between four and a half and six inches, you're you're doing fine. You're doing all right. Casey you're you're wondering. Yeah, I just I don't know. Thought that would be interesting for us. Uh yeah. Unusual podlet. I don't know if it's unusual.
SPEAKER_01No, not for us. But um, I do want to tell you about this. So, this book. Oh, I did look this up.
SPEAKER_02I have it in my library. Go ahead, talk about it. Sorry, I'm so glad because I thought I forgot.
SPEAKER_01Okay, this book is called Loud, and it's by Drew Affalo. Affulo. I don't know how to say her last name, but she's a podcaster. She's obviously very successful. She has a book and everything, and like she's doing it, and she's young, she's way younger than us. And okay, if I dare say she might be younger than my daughter. And yeah. And um this is she it's filled like kind of with her story, of course, like who she is, but she gives a lot of um, she has a lot of advice for for other young women. So it's kind of interesting to hear someone so young give advice to to other women, especially dating advice. Okay. So I found it, I found that to be kind of fascinating.
SPEAKER_02And it is weird that we're now in a generation of daters that have really only had the internet. Yes, yes. I mean, they meet people other ways, but remember watching how what did we watch where they the bumble movie, the the documentary or the dramatized, yes, because that's more what we knew as younger people that you had to go, you had to be places to meet people, yes, but they haven't. They've had their whole life where they didn't have to, especially ones that are like just coming out of high school and are in college now, they were in COVID, so like they didn't even have the like if if you were 16 to 20 during COVID years, that just really probably messed up your connection time.
SPEAKER_01Big time. I think, yeah, those are like lost years, lost years for everyone, but especially for people in that age range. Yeah, big time. And yeah, so she talks about dating and that sort of thing. And for some reason, what we were just talking about being online and stuff like that. Um, you know, I went to Clarksdale this past weekend and you know, with Ambrosia, and we had the most interesting conversation on the way back. You know how you're like, you're kind of just tired and you're just like, so all we did was just, you know.
SPEAKER_02I love a road trip for conversations because you're uh a captive audience.
SPEAKER_01Yes, exactly. So, you know, you and I've talked a lot about it before, like porn, and it's like I'm just not into it. And I was like, and I really, it's like what's interesting is that I was like, I had an aha moment, and I was like, I know what it is, I know what it is. It's not that I'm a prude, like, oh, people, I don't, you know, sex, and I go, it's like it's kind of like when I see my niece, and I'm like, what is she watching on YouTube? And she's watching other kids play with toys or something, and it's like, what? When don't you want to play with the toy? I mean, that's one way to look at it. Like, it's like it's I think it's such a brain rot. It's well, I mean there's two levels to it, but one part of one of the is is like I don't want to watch somebody do the thing that I want to do. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it makes perfect sense.
SPEAKER_01Like it'd be like it'd be like it'd be like, hey Marion, it's Christmas time, so gather around. We're gonna watch this family open presents, but we're not gonna open any.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And it does, and in in the times that I have, like, I'm like, oh, okay, I'll watch that. It's like I don't want that to be what I'm thinking about when I'm actually with someone else.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01You know, it does, it gets it's it's pervasive, it's it gets in insidious. And but anyways, yeah, it's just like watching others other people like do something, and then like I want to be, I don't want to just watch it.
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I was like, ah, finally. It was like, because it was just kind of like one of those things. I'm like, porn's, I just don't, uh, you know.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's usually not made for women anyway. No, but like we're not the marketing, but also we wouldn't be the people they'd make money off of.
SPEAKER_01No, no, but also it but then the other thing is it's like, and it's like, you know, then we got into the conversation of like, well, why do guys, you know, guys, you know, really watch it. And it's like, and I was like, because it's low effort.
SPEAKER_02It's slow, it's right there, it's low effort, yeah, and and it's way too easy to get now. I mean, it used to be Oh, geez, it was way less uh annoying and gross to me when they had to like save a magazine, right? Now it's just so like, yeah, we talked about your ex and like in the time I was at that board meeting for an organization I was working for, and an old man opened his phone right there. You think you would have finished that scene in the car, sir? Anyway, like why is it in the middle? Oh my god, oh my god, yeah, and so it was so loud. Oh, because he's an old man, so he's deaf, I guess.
SPEAKER_01It turned up. Oh, that's so crazy. But yeah, no, I was just I had an app like a I was like, I finally was able to like articulate. I'm like, ah, yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER_02That is a good way to put it in the low effort thing, I think. I think so.
SPEAKER_01I think so.
SPEAKER_02It used to be you had to use your imagination, right?
SPEAKER_01I'm just I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Is that so terrible? And physiologically it's probably better.
SPEAKER_01It probably is, and you know, yeah, you used to have to go down to the the creepy video store and go to the like the go to the back room.
SPEAKER_02That one seven eleven that had the covered magazine, right? Or your dad's garage. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, or you find yeah, you find the the stack of Playboys you said they were just in your house. Oh, they're all yeah. My grandparents, yeah. They were it was nothing to be to bat an eye, there'd just be a Playboy sitting out on like the coffee table. Never would that have happened or in the mail pile in and I was like, well, since they don't care, they just leave them out. I'm like, I'll just casually thumb through them. Like, what right? Like, why not?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I would have been way curious, yeah. Of course.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they had insane comics and stuff. That was wild.
SPEAKER_02I don't know that I've ever looked at one. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, they had funny, like I mean, they really were chunkful of articles and stuff, but they really had funny like comics and comic strips in the back and stuff like that. I don't know. I thought it was fascinating.
SPEAKER_02I think one time my brother and I did he read me the letters in like Hustler or something. Yeah, like I didn't look at it. I just was listen, we were very poor. Like, what are the letters? What are the dear Abby of the Hustler? Right, they mostly couldn't have been real. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, that's probably an instance where she's like, My boyfriend's penis is so big. What do I yeah, like exactly gonna be that? Yeah, absolutely. I can't remember. I was so young. These were I say so young, I mean like a teenager.
SPEAKER_01I wasn't creative writing at his best. No, yeah, all those, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02So all right, there we go. That was good. Size matters, kind of, kind of, yeah.
SPEAKER_01To the extremes, like you know, you don't want it to be so huge it's not usable, and you don't want it to be so small that it's not usable. So, like you said, there's a range. I feel like it's a reasonable range based on the number of very reasonable range, yes, yeah, just FYI if you're a guy out there listening.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that that number of the men satisfied versus the women satisfied. I think you should focus in on that. And for the most part, especially if you're a decent person, is really not gonna matter as much. Yeah, like don't get hung up on just that. Get hung up on trying to be a good partner, and listen to your partner.
SPEAKER_01You can tell what she likes if you pay attention.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Like, well, communication is a big I mean, like I think it's hard. Maybe it's more cultural for us because we're in a weird the US is such a weird history or whatever, but communicating about those things is some people still have trouble with it, but if it's there, I mean, and also, yes, you're correct that she will tell you things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like you could if you're paying attention to you can tell, like, oh, okay, you know, right, you know, dude, keep doing that, and and if she says keep doing that, keep doing exactly that. Right, not more, not less, not totally something different. Exactly that.
SPEAKER_02All right, get us out of here. This has been It Makes What It Makes, the Podlet, where we do what we want, and we're out.